Best way to start seedlings?
- BentoSalesBoy
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So here is the question. For Misho, is it best to sow seeds directly in the ground? (If so, what's stopping the roots from growing too big?)
I was thinking of buying a seedling or seed starter tray with 50 cells or so, with drainage holes, but keeping it outside where there will be 9-12 hours of sunlight, and leaving it exposed during the snow (for natural stratification/scarification). My thinking is that these seedling trays have cells that will limit root growth until they're 1 year old and ready for transplanting.
Wanted to ask before I make a mistake. Also, should I just let nature take of watering the seeds until the Spring when I start seeing seedlings sprout? Or for Misho, should I still stick to watering when the soil feels dry?
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What you can do is dig them up every few years and do some rootwork or plant them on a tile in order to obtain a better nebari, that’s common practice.
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What I found more interesting, is that it might be easier (at least for begginers) to prune the taproot (to improve your nebari induceing side roots) when removing from the cell, and from the tests I made, it seems to be the perfect stage, the ones I did, simply kept growing like nothing happened.
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Spending my money and time on growing seeds in small pots has never really been an option for me. I just let the nature do what nature is best at.
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- Albas
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The more trees you get, less you care about young seedlings, and would take a good reason why to start another one. I'm starting to realise that, as I may have now about 70 plants...
I'm now starting to put together a place to grow a few of them on the ground... I'm gonna grow a few Ficuses variations and other trees to train them on the ground (sides with bricks to make the rootwork easier), and at the same time get an advanced material, as I want to try the trunk fusion technique.
But I haven't spend anything on my recycled trays (used plastic packaging), nor the sand/soil that I use to start them, or even the cell tray (Gift from a friend that runs a Farming Store, good thing about beeing a country guy, hahahah)... As I said, for some commom seeds, easy to get, that grows around me, I don't even bother.
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Since they are rare in my state/region, and it's not popular among people here, the only way to get this tree in my region would be buying seeds, buying the plant, or finding a Brazilian Rain Tree owner around (which I did).
So I don't mind to give it an extra early care (being that just putting them on a pot with rought sand by now... hahaha)
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Tree last summer ( When I started scouting it, lol)
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Sorry if I mislead the topic.
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Do something about birds.
My four year old bonsai assistant/grandson, being half Chinese, loves lichees, which have pretty big seeds. He wanted to plant some. About a week later all twelve were pushing out of the dirt the way seeds so, which is that the sprout was pushing the seed out. The next day something - bird, chipmunk, whatever - had pulled them all up, eaten the seeds, and every one was dead. We'll try again next spring, but it was disappointing, to say the least.
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And really, a pot with sand is not expansive, nor that time taker, if the seeds present any value for you, and if you want to do so. (and if you just think a bit, a pot with sand can be for free).
If you have lands, big trees from species you like to work, that are always producing bunches of seedlings, great... I have this situation with Calliandras, Jabuticabas or Brazilian Cherry around here, and that's awesome, because it's just a mather of paying attention. I just think that this may not work for everyone.
But about the Lichee, I've read that the best way to propagate them is to Air-layer it, if you have access to a tree, of course. My uncle has a tree, so I'm planning to do so next year to gift my dad, as he loves the fruit.
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Albas wrote: Hahah Sorry Ivan, but yes... That's why sometimes "Let nature do it's job" can trick you, because sometimes nature has another plans for your trees,
just kidding, I had similar cases around here.
And really, a pot with sand is not expansive, nor that time taker, if the seeds present any value for you, and if you want to do so. (and if you just think a bit, a pot with sand can be for free).
If you have lands, big trees from species you like to work, that are always producing bunches of seedlings, great... I have this situation with Calliandras, Jabuticabas or Brazilian Cherry around here, and that's awesome, because it's just a mather of paying attention. I just think that this may not work for everyone.
But about the Lichee, I've read that the best way to propagate them is to Air-layer it, if you have access to a tree, of course. My uncle has a tree, so I'm planning to do so next year to gift my dad, as he loves the fruit.
I have no idea what how the tree would be as a bonsai, but the enthusiastic assistant proposed the idea, and therefore it was a good idea. I think I remember it would be tropical.
They go to the Chinese stores and get lots of interesting things, among them lichees. Next time I will have metal screen over the container to let in sun but not birds.
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