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Little update, I have proceeded to preparing the tree to be collected next year , I cut half of the roots and covered them in soil, however I think I discovered the tap root and it's about 10 cm in diameter :0
I think I'll need a chainsaw.....
Fingers crossed

YIKES, a chainsaw on a brick wall. There's a good chance of nicking your chain, or bending the bar. :ohmy:

I'd say go for it, but seems you've already started!

Your second picture shows more of the trunk line, which has a big trunk chop and then some slender shoots coming up. It would take some time in the ground after collection to thicken them up, but truly, if you're wanting to start collecting, what a better chance! The tree may not be the best ideal material without lots of work, but better to experiment on something that won't hurt your feelings too much if lost. It was probably cut previously because it was a nuisance, so its likelihood of survival in its current location is low anyway.

I agree that dormancy (just before buds swell) is the best time to collect. Next spring, go for it. For the big tap root, I'd use a pull saw (like a pruning saw or bonsai saw) or a portable reciprocating saw. If you don't have one, get one or make friends with someone who does. I use mine quite a bit. Use a sharp knife to cut the edges smooth. The smaller roots don't have feeder roots, but they will grow them if the cuts are cut clean. Some rooting hormone never hurts. Follow good bonsai transplanting practice afterwards.

People who collect good yamadori didn't start off collecting good yamadori. And if they did, I bet they lost a bunch in the process. Success & failure. How else do we learn?

Thanks for the support brKirkland ,
I agree completely with you about the fact that it's not the best material , but I have in plan a lot of work for it.
I've still got loads to learn about bonsai and this tree will help me learn loads of new techniques, it has already started teaching me how to collect , witch I have never done before , and I am planning to learn carving , grafting and loads of other techniques from it , so just as well that it need loads of work to it .
I just hope the collection goes well .
Regards
Nico

Enaisio wrote: I just hope the collection goes well .
Regards
Nico

me too

just a little update on the tree . As you can see lots of growth and it's where I want it , the leaves closer to the trunk are very small :) it's looking good .

Nice! Better picture from last time, too. Spring won't come fast enough, will it?

I know , I just can't wait to have it in my back garden

Very bad news I went to check up on my buddy and found out that someone cut him down almost to the roots , this happened some time ago but I was to angry to post about it I'm pretty sure it's dead by the looks of it but I'm reserving some hope for spring .

Fingers crossed..hope it will survive