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Posted 2 years 9 months ago #77089
Hello,

I'm fairly new to bonsai. Does anyone know what these might be? I think there are four different kinds:

1) one with oblong leaves that are whitish underneath

2) one with obovate/wedge-shaped leaves and some spines, also whitish below

3) one with ovate leaves that are slightly asymmetric with tips bent to one side

4) one with odd-pinnate leaves like some kind of mimosa or calliandra, but slightly different leaflet arrangement (terminal leaflet present, unlike calliandra)

I thought #1 might be a willow, #2 maybe a fig, #3 bougainvillea, and #4 some pea family plant

Any help is appreciated as I try to learn.

Thank you!

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Posted 2 years 9 months ago #77106
All these plants are in appalling condition, at least two are dead. There is possibly a Willow, but I doubt it will live long. Where did you get these from?
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Posted 2 years 9 months ago #77107
Excactly my thought. Who on earth sell mature trees in bad conditions without knowing the species?

How did they get developed? Could not happen without goodcare. What caused them to get into this bad condition?
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Posted 2 years 9 months ago #77119
poor tree please put it on the pot and remove the wire, don't reshape it yet, just plant it in the partial shade and water, use B1 vitamin on initial watering
from my perspective
the one with thorn is Desmodium triflorum/ Desmodium sp has purple flower
the one with sleeping leaves is Tamarind.
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Posted 2 years 9 months ago #77121
As far as identifying the plant, there are a couple of applications that do a pretty good job of identifying plants. PlantNet is on Android and there are similar apps for iPhone. There is also Google Lens. They all give a most likely identification and a second likely, or more.

People get into running a small store and I guess they realize quickly how little they really know. A house plant person has a few favorite species but then a salesman tells them to get indoor bonsai and they don't know anything, so they trust the salesman. Well, that works out the way we would expect.
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Posted 2 years 9 months ago #77122
Do you ever find trees like picture 1 and 2 in stores in USA? Do they sell trees without pots but in plastic bags that are not marked with species?

In Europe there are absolutelly no business in developing trees like this. They don't usually end up in stores. If they do, a beginner without any knowledge of the trees would normally not afford buying four of them.
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Posted 2 years 9 months ago #77171
i believe this is from asian market
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