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Posted 8 years 11 months ago #21889
I did not talk about the Juniper, I was so impressed about your 名媛直播 Garden and the trees displayed.
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Posted 8 years 11 months ago #21891

Auk wrote:

Samantha wrote: Why do you hide everything, in that mas of green?


This post was a statement. I see you didn't get the point.


no i didn't..

explain your point
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Posted 8 years 11 months ago #21921

Samantha wrote: explain your point


名媛直播 is not a short term hobby. Creating a good tree takes many years or even decades. Even then, top bonsai are not show worthy most of the time.
Trees need growth. Without growth, no development and eventually death. Even the best bonsai will not always look perfect. The trees, or parts of the tree, may be left to grow unrestricted to improve the tree and to keep it healthy.

While showing a progression is very interesting and inspiring, I think it is not so useful to post loads of photos of my trees for every little thing I do to them. Apart from that, I do criticize my own trees, and find many of them just not so interesting. That is the reason why I don't post photos of all my trees - many of them just not so interesting or inspiring .

While what I wrote is true - and I even overlooked some trees, like a potentilla that's there, left to grow for many years before I touch it - on the photo there's nothing to see. You don't see a single bonsai on it. From a bonsai-perspective, I find this not interesting - and therefore I don't post many pictures of my trees.
Thanks for the comments on the garden though - that too is something I completely designed myself :)

About the buckeye:
That is one of the trees of which I would not have posted a photo - as I consider it not a good tree. I grew it from seed, many years ago, but potted it too soon, cut it off too high, and now it is a stick with leaves. I've kept it as... well, you don't throw away live things, right? It is nice to see how much the leaves can be reduced. They are quite large at the moment, but still about 1/3 the size of the other buckeye's I have in the ground. I will defoliate it, which will give new, even smaller, leaves. I should make a picture of the large leaves on the one in the ground and this one.

As said, I wouldn't have posted a picture of it, but here is one, just for you :)

(hold on.. phone battery just went empty)
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Posted 8 years 11 months ago #21922
There you go:

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Why this is not a good tree:

- Trunk is too thin, especially compared with the size of the leaves
- Trunk has insufficient tapering
- Trunk movement isn't nice
- Style... what style is th is, really?
- Branch placement leaves much to be desired
- Ramification is insufficient

Verdict:
Hardly a bonsai, not even a pre-bonsai. Should be put back in the ground, cut off closely to the first bend, and let grow for many years.
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Posted 8 years 11 months ago #21924
I think your way to hard on yourself mate, I like the look of it.
Ofcourse there are things which only Time can bring such as mature Bark etc but
in due time and potted into a matching container it could make a nice little Tree.

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Posted 8 years 11 months ago #21925

Craig wrote: I think your way to hard on yourself mate


I think the assessment is realistic. Also, I think it should be chopped - halfway between the first and second bend.
But let's try and see if it has any value.
I recently saw a 4 year old buckeye seedling - just a straight thin stick. The owner asked a whopping 20 euro for it.
I've put this one on Marktplaats (a dutch auction site) for 25 euro, so, relatively speaking, that's very cheap. Let's see what happens :)
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Posted 8 years 11 months ago #21932

Auk wrote: I've put this one on Marktplaats (a dutch auction site) for 25 euro, so, relatively speaking, that's very cheap. Let's see what happens :)


And shortly after this, I already received a first offer of 15 euro. I'm surprised.
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Posted 8 years 11 months ago #21939
I'm agreeing with Craig, here. What's not to love about it!

I'm poking the dragon here, but I'm still in a morphing process on my philosophy of bonsai.
My wife & I traveled all over Oregon this past week on vacation. The trees, especially in the higher elevations & mid-state desert are everything a bonsai artist could dream of. Every style, from formal uprights to full cascades - everything in between & just damned gorgeous. These are the trees I've seen in bonsai dreams. But here's the rub: I don't have these types of trees growing in my state of Virginia. My trees are mostly deciduous, and broad reaching, mostly long, often leggy. The climate is easy compared to the high winds, dry conditions, harsh winters & volcanic soils that shaped to creations of the western states. In a sense, why am I trying to create trees that look nothing like my surroundings? Those Oregon trees are awesome, but my trees are awesome in their own right, too. What does a tree styled to look like my Appalachian backyard look like? I'm working towards that. So, now that's said...

What do the trees in your Netherlands look like to you? Are you inspired by your trees? Are you trying to emulate what others are doing, or are you working to create Auk-style (which I think would be best - make it your own!). I wouldn't judge yourself so harshly (unless you just really want to! ).
You're going to make your trees the way that makes you happiest. I've think you've got great ideas, and I can't wait to see what choice you run with next.
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Posted 8 years 11 months ago #21943

brkirkland22 wrote: What's not to love about it!


The lack of girth, tapering, ramification. leaf si... ah well, I alreaedy summed it up.

What do the trees in your Netherlands look like to you?


I think horse chestnuts pretty much look the same anywhere - but they do not look like this plant.

I wouldn't judge yourself so harshly (unless you just really want to! ).


Leatherback, rescue me please, and give your honest opinion about this tree .
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Posted 8 years 11 months ago #21952
that is not fair. I think the species is hardly suitable, an this seedling would. not get my energy..
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