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Posted 3 years 3 months ago #74261
It is a tricky situation. You need to keep it as cold as possible while protecting it from frost.

I keep my l sinense in heated overwintering room. 5 c minimum temperature. But to be honest this species is not good for my conditions. They have survived for 3 years now but are suffering every winter.

If you are serious about bonsai, get yourself trees that are fully hardy to your area and grow them outdoors at all time. Ulmus parvifolia is a really good option for your location.
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Posted 3 years 3 months ago #74262
To tell the truth, my mother doesn't know anything about bonsai, and this makes perfect prey for the shops which will try and take advantage of them. She got the one that looked the nicest within her budget for a gift. I did not know I would get a bonsai, otherwise I would have asked which species I should get on this forum and asked for this instead.

I honestly do not believe the shop is willing to take this bonsai back, and I don't even know if my mother still has the receipt. However, I will do my best to see if I can exchange it for an Ulmus Parvifola as you suggest. If I was not a minor, this would be far easier.
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Posted 3 years 3 months ago #74263
Upon deeper thought, I don't think someone else keeping it would be any better. We have a receipt, but giving it to the plant shop is not going to give it a better life, as I trust myself to give it the best life it can possibly get in this country, especially because bonsai are not always so well respected in England. I will focus on getting it completely healthy before I begin to give attention to it's appearance. My girlfriend and I want to raise it as best we can, even though she will not be able to look after it directly. She is from Japan (which I plan to live someday in order to live with her), and will ask experts there, too. She plans to visit Kagawa prefecture soon, which is well known for its bonsai, and is bound to have many experienced bonsai enthusiasts. ?I will take responsibility for the bonsai, and have already bought some solid fertilizer. I have also hopefully come up with a solution to the temperature problem. I have two options.


The first option would be my shed. This is cold enough, and will protect the bonsai from any kind of frost. It is an average of 8°C tonight where I live, and only on very cold nights does it fall below 0°C. There is a window, and the bonsai will get plenty of sunlight from this.

The garage is the same as the shed, only it is right under a bedroom, so the room is warmer on extremely cool nights. ?There is also a window, and it will get plenty of sunlight from that.

Neither are heated, but the temperature should stay warm enough for the bonsai to survive in this climate. Please tell me if I need to specify anything else, and if this is a suitable environment for it to grow.


I understand this may be harder than normal for a beginner like myself, but I will rise to the challenge and give it my very best to keep it alive. I will likely also come into possession of two other neglected bonsai from a relative, because they no longer want them after 6 months (they received them after a friend left for Australia and was not able to take them with them). They will visit in a few months time and bring the bonsai with them, so until then, I will do my best to keep this one healthy and study everything I possibly can on this site and other YouTube channels. I will move to Japan to be with my girlfriend permanently in roughly 5 years, which is a brilliant opportunity to learn more about bonsai.

I hope to gain a lot of knowledge and pursue this as my newest lifelong hobby. I've been interested in them for a month now, but there is a lot more to them than I thought. I apologise for my excessive speaking, it's just that I am excited to learn so much from each of you. Thank you all.
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Posted 3 years 3 months ago #74265
You could place it in the garage first for a few weeks, and then move it to the shed. That way the transition to its normal environment will be smoother.
I think if you ask any of the regulars here what they would do different if they started with bonsai the answer from all would be:” I wish I started with this when I was young”. You have a lifetime ahead of you to learn and grow bonsai, take your time, bonsai is a marathon, not a sprint.
Another tip: look out for people renovating/working in their gardens. Often old and gnarly shrubs,trees, hedges are excavated and thrown away. These are free starter plants, that mostly already are of some age. Yew, privet, boxwood, hornbeam, hawthorn are often used as hedges, ideal to be formed as bonsai
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Posted 3 years 3 months ago #74268
Thank you so much for the tips and advice. I am grateful for your time. I will take what I have learnt here and apply it to this and any future bonsai I am in possession of. I will definitely do my best.
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Posted 3 years 3 months ago #74269
One of the best things you can do is find a local group and see what they do for winter care, when they prune and do root work, and what they do in summer.

I can offer opinions, but they are all based on a climate where it dropped below freezing three times last year and hasn't frozen yet this year. I have seen leaves pop out January 6 on some of my trees, and had them all leafing out by March 15, while others don't see a leaf by then. My advice on winter care is worthless to someone in Canada. Summer care here is similarly different.

See what people do locally. You will be amazed at the different approaches, but if everyone does the same thing, you can probably count on that.
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