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Vnolan; I have watched all his videos at least 5 times. I can't aford to by video equipment, wish I could.
Cleaner; this tree will be hollowed out quite a ways down, maybe all the way thru. This tree is more than 50% deadwood already so I will not be carving on live tissue. The root system is the main reason I am waiting a year or two before I start carving.
Cleaner; this tree will be hollowed out quite a ways down, maybe all the way thru. This tree is more than 50% deadwood already so I will not be carving on live tissue. The root system is the main reason I am waiting a year or two before I start carving.
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What caving tools are you going to use? Im just wondering why you say its going to take that long. Thank you for the video link, I love watching Graham Potter vids and i hadn't seen that one yet.
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Just basic power tools and a dremel. I got a couple of old rotory rasp bits, long drill bits, and all kinds of dremel bits. I might wind up making some carving chisels with long thin handles as well. I wish I could afford Mr. Potters bits, the terriors and weasel. I think I will look into that flat termite he uses on a angled die grinder or the sanding one that is like that.
If you watch Sir Potter's videos some give a time frame that the work was done in. He is a pro and some of his takes 2-3 days for the block carving. I am an amateur that doesn't have the perfect tools. The 40-60 hours is a guess at doing all 3 stages that I am planning on doing it in, if they were combined into one session.
My initial carve is going to be done with a chainsaw on that big upright part. I plan on making downward cuts to make big splinter like objects, like something came by and broke it off.
My intermediate carve is going to be more Sir Potter-ish. This is when I will hollow in out and roughly detail the splinter like peaks. I am also going to cheat and put a drain hole in the hollow, that way I won't have water standing and rot it. At this time I will also address some of the other areas that have deadwood with a block carve.
My final carve will be the detail work. This is where all the fine lines and small cracks and crevises will be done. Then it will get treated and hopefully the final work on the live part.
If you watch Sir Potter's videos some give a time frame that the work was done in. He is a pro and some of his takes 2-3 days for the block carving. I am an amateur that doesn't have the perfect tools. The 40-60 hours is a guess at doing all 3 stages that I am planning on doing it in, if they were combined into one session.
My initial carve is going to be done with a chainsaw on that big upright part. I plan on making downward cuts to make big splinter like objects, like something came by and broke it off.
My intermediate carve is going to be more Sir Potter-ish. This is when I will hollow in out and roughly detail the splinter like peaks. I am also going to cheat and put a drain hole in the hollow, that way I won't have water standing and rot it. At this time I will also address some of the other areas that have deadwood with a block carve.
My final carve will be the detail work. This is where all the fine lines and small cracks and crevises will be done. Then it will get treated and hopefully the final work on the live part.
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The weasel does look cool. Why do you call him sir potter? haha. Good luck, it sounds like youve thought and planned out what you are goint to do very well.
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Thanks, I am a detail freak so I am always planning before I work on something. I also do acrylic paintings and I will plan for months before I pick up a brush.
To me Graham Potter is a genious when it comes to carving, so I feel "Sir" is appropriat.
To me Graham Potter is a genious when it comes to carving, so I feel "Sir" is appropriat.

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Its good to have a plan before setting to work on something. You must do quite fine detail when painting, I have been taught to be free and express myself in my art.. always being told to draw or paint quickly haha. Graham Potter really is a legand
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oh praise the yamadori god...if i ever won the lottery one of my first trips would be to europe and grahms nursery to buy me a big tree 
by the way i spend weeks to months planning stylings and ive read stories of spending 40 hours wiring a large old ficus

by the way i spend weeks to months planning stylings and ive read stories of spending 40 hours wiring a large old ficus
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Good plan mamofthetrees
, me too, just have to win the loto first
. Wow, thats a long time to wire. I guess i have no actual bonsai yet, im still in the collecting phase, so I don't too much thought into designs, i sort of just do something as an idea comes to mind. When i hopefully start working with more mature trees i will have to take a more different approach.



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ManOfTheTrees: have you looked at the prices of his yamadori trees on his website? As you say need to win the lottery.
MWid: Take one of your trees that grows fast, that will not hurt too much if it dies, and use it for experiments. Use one that has some good branching. Look it over until you can see everything it has and has to offer. As you are looking at it think about how you would like to see it's finished shape. The front should become apperent after a while as well as the apex. Then on to the first branch, which way is it pointing,where do you want it to go, how can it be improved (with technics). Then think of the next and the next. To help visualize you can also draw it as a fully styled tree. After you have the whole idea in your head THEN start work on it. And as always have patience and work at the trees pace. I killed a tree because I over worked it. It was no great loss because it was a small tree that I got from the yard, it had no special attributes, after all it was an experiment on growing branches and foliage. I learned alot from that one tree about design and pushing trees.
MWid: Take one of your trees that grows fast, that will not hurt too much if it dies, and use it for experiments. Use one that has some good branching. Look it over until you can see everything it has and has to offer. As you are looking at it think about how you would like to see it's finished shape. The front should become apperent after a while as well as the apex. Then on to the first branch, which way is it pointing,where do you want it to go, how can it be improved (with technics). Then think of the next and the next. To help visualize you can also draw it as a fully styled tree. After you have the whole idea in your head THEN start work on it. And as always have patience and work at the trees pace. I killed a tree because I over worked it. It was no great loss because it was a small tree that I got from the yard, it had no special attributes, after all it was an experiment on growing branches and foliage. I learned alot from that one tree about design and pushing trees.
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haha tnx snuffy. The problem is Ive already done that with just about all the plants I'm growing, I'm always experimenting on them and trying different things, What I meant to say is I don't spend so much time thinking about a design, I just do it. Only some of my faster growing trees (like a ficus airlayer) I am working on a proper final design
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